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« on: February 15, 2005, 10:37:41 AM »

I've been looking over the past few months, and I have to say, the cherry wood Real Touch Elite laminate flooring at Home Depot looks and feels beautiful.  It is on sale this week for $3.77.  Several boards out there have pointed out that Home Depot 10% discount coupons are out there, so keep an eye out for them.

AzFred at the the ISW bulletin board points out that it is in fact a new import from Spain.
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This import from Spain is new to the USA and not in general distribution nor does it have a track record. There are similar products in the flooring stores that feature better brands, have a longer track record and similar warrantee periods.
Another user had not so kind words:
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Well folks - here's the straight scoop on the new DuPont Real Touch Elite lamninate. IT IS A TOTAL DISASTER OF A PRODUCT AND SHOULD NOT BE SOLD. I consider it an a faulty interlock design and ti thin edge design is too easy to crack and damage. After two weeks of attempting to get some installation tips from both Home Depot and the DuPont Tecnhical Flooring rep, I have given up and contacted Home Depot and, my lawyer, and the N.C Attorney General's Office. This design is a total disaster and installation impossible. I have trashed three boxes before finally calling it quits. The Home Depot flooring people have absolutely no track record on the product not do they have any type of training on the product. Their only reference is to the Pergo and Shaw lines. The problem with this product is that is has a verey thin edge to work with and, for all practical purposes, can be installed only by the snap-lock edges. Instructions call for you to connect the narrow side to the adjacent edge in a snap lock manner and then to lift up the long edge along with the adjacent, previously installed piece, then to snap them down together. This does not work at all. It leaves minor gaps. The DuPont technical folks emailed me instructions that are provided to the installers. It references the same pictures contained in each carton of the product. It does mention that you may have to use a pull bar or tap block in tight situations. The problems that I am experiencing it that it takes multiple people to work with this product and the joints leave gaps after you pass a prior course of installed flooring. I have make complaint to Home Deport and asked for a DuPont rep to come to my home and show me how they can accomplish this installation. And, for those of you reading this posting - I have previously installed multiple rooms of laminate (both Shaw and Pergo) with absolutely no problems. Although this is a very nice looking product I would suggest that you stay with one of the thicker laminate products that is easier to work with.
Yikes!  Fortunately for Dupont, he posted an update.
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My previous post got some attention. I did get a call from the DuPont SE technical rep in N.J. He agreed that the documented installation process was sketchy. He says that the only way to install the Elite is by using the snap-lock process. I did find after following his instructions that it went pretty well but not as easy an Pergo. In the documentation it indicates that you need to life the adjacent board. This is not what it seems. Actually you only have to raise it about and inch or so. You practically push the joints together at a very slight angle, not the exagerated angle depicted in the installation guide. That was my big problem. You may still get some minor gas where the "snap" process will not fully pull the joints together. There is no "tap" block tool available for use with this product. I did experiment and find that by cutting a scrap piece (retaining the "tongue" groove side) and cutting the other end as a flat cut that you can "engage" the scrap into the groove at several points along the long edge and tap gently with a rubber mallet and remove any minor gaps left. Evidently DuPont is in the process of trying to train installers and Home Depot personnel. The finished floor does look absolutely great as compared to anything else that I have seen. And, I also noticed that in walking across the finished floor that you do not hear the plastic like click that you hear when walking ascross Pergo and Shaw. Thers is a noticeable difference in sound when I leave the Pergo room and enter the DuPont room - a more solid feel. So far I have put down about 600 feet by doing a couple of rows each night after work. If it works out as well as it is going now I should complete my 25x32 foot room over the holiday weekend and make a decision on ordering enough to complete the rest of the house.
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« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2005, 06:50:46 PM »

you must be a real tool Torque!!
just installed dupont laminate in my whole house with not one problem.
once you get the hang of it, it goes easy.  For installation tools you can just buy the pergo kit which is also sold at homedepot.  Hope this helps.
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« Reply #2 on: July 26, 2005, 07:48:16 PM »

I have now installed about 1000 sf of this flooring. It did take several rows before I got the hang of it, but once you understand the the unique interlock features, it goes in relatively easy. I find the use of a tapping block to be necessary to ensure that the seams are all tight and completely seamless. The look, feel and touch of the product are as close to real wood as any of the laminate products I have seen at any of the big box stores (Lowe's, HD or Costtco). The compliments I have received from family and friends are so encouraging that we have decided to add this flooring to all the rooms on the second floor of our home as well as our Florida condominium. It's that good. However, this is one product that could easily benefit from a short video taped presentation of an actual installation either as a down-load on the Dupont web-site or as a separate purchase at the store.
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« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2005, 09:24:12 PM »

I just installed about 450 sq ft of the cherry block.  It went in fairly easy and looks great.  I was planning on doing the stairwells, hallway and family room in it also but cannot find any edge trim (bullnose) for the stairs.  (I should have checked on this before I made the purchase but I "assumed...".)  I couldn't find a Home Depot flooring rep within the limited time I had to shop there (usually not a problem) and can find NOTHING on the Dupont site on the trim.  I am seriously considering returning the uncut pieces and going with another product.  Does anyone know of a product or have a solution for the stairs?

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« Reply #4 on: October 09, 2005, 07:20:10 PM »

My local Home Depot has a limited amount of bullnose for the stairs ...I am in the Kansas City Missouri metro area.

Saw this product today and really liked it...hope more people try it and have better luck.
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« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2005, 08:13:17 AM »

I finished everything except the stairs.  Still need 6 pieces of stairnose and no one seems to know when it will come in.  It's been a few months now and we're starting to get used to the look of the ragged edges of the stairs.
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« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2005, 05:50:40 PM »

Maestro..if you haven't tried ask your local store to call around to other stores in your state or maybe they have a computer system that tells what other stores have in stock.  I know when I needed some more tile that I purchased from Lowes they had this type of computer system and were able to locate more tile for me, maybe Home Depot has the same type system.

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« Reply #7 on: July 04, 2006, 02:33:44 PM »

Hi, I know there have been plenty of replies to that first message but I just had to post one too!  We have laid the real touch cherry down on our entire ground floor and stairs (about 1700 sq feet).  My husband and I did it ourselves and it was so easy!  I dont know how you could have trouble and wreck one let alone THREE boxes of this!  We did lay pergo in our last home and I think the durability and beauty of this product far surpasses pergo.  It has been over 2 years since we did the first room and we haven't had anything bad to say about it.  We had a refrigerator leak that spread into our living room and under the floor barrier and the only way we found out about it was from the wet walls, not from a warped floor.  I think that anyone with a little common sense and a small knowledge of sliding a floor together can handle this.  I wonder if that first post's author felt silly after he read how many people have had such simple times with this product??
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« Reply #8 on: July 30, 2006, 06:27:00 AM »

Hello Everyone:

I live in an apt built on a concrete slab. I just purchased this product from Home Depot.

The concrete subfloor in the apt is a little wavy, but not by much (maybe 1/8"). When I put a 2x4 down in certain spots, it does wobble a bit. I'm wondering if I would need to grind the subfloor or fill it with compound to level it. I would rather not do this because of time and expense, but I don't want to install the product wrong.

Also, the instructions indicate that I need to lay down plastic sheeting when installing this product over concrete, presumably because of moisture from the ground (e.g. Basements). However, I live on the fifth floor and I'm not sure that step would be necessary. Could someone confirm this?

This is my first install of laminate, so I'm a little nervous. Any feedback you have would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
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